Jenn Johnson and the Gray Scale Deception

Several months ago while browsing through Facebook, I came across this video on one of my friends posts. He posted this video and basically asked what we thought of this teaching. I wasn’t real familiar with Jenn Johnson but I had heard her name before and I knew she was very influential with the younger folks, and with the prophetic revival crowd. I made it through about three minutes of the video before I had to shut it off. I eventually came back and attempted to watch the whole thing but it was difficult, this video was just so grievous. It is so hard to watch the Church move into such deception, literally calling evil ‘good’ and good ‘evil’ which really brings Isaiah 5:20 to mind at the moment. Before I bring anymore of the Bible(The Word of God) into this I think it is important to note that to much of the modern Church you will find it hard to get through to them with the written Word of God. Because they are so sure that they have evolved to a place of such prophetic enlightenment that the Bible is just a book for the religious crowd to beat everyone else over the head with. But as we all know 2 Timothy 3:16 – 4:4 is clear instruction to all Christians concerning the ultimate authorship of our Bible, and how it is to be used,…and,…why. True Holy Spirit breathed teaching and Prophecy spoken from trained and anointed servants of the most high God should be a taken very seriously by the Church and the Ministry as Christ gave His life for His Church and gave a serious charge and responsibility to all who care for the Church in His name. I want to be clear that my aim in this article isn’t just to ‘slam’ another ministry and try to tear down the work of other people, but it is critical to understand that when deception, especially deception this bad comes into the Church it is irresponsible not to address it and it must be addressed at the level that it exists so that it will not spread. If this were just a case of someone ‘missing it’ while trying to do God’s best then there is no way I would mention it to anyone other than the person themself. But when you have a person of this level of influence, from a platform of even a greater level of influence, broadcast into so many different levels of the Church worldwide, then I think the level at which this should be addressed changes a little. As always we should all pray for ministries like these that they would turn repent and really see truth, but until then I think it is very important to speak truth openly so that many may be turned from being sucked into these erroneous doctrines.


So first I will show you the video, then I will give my own response, please feel free to leave your own responses as well,…………




Apparently there was also some issue as to whether Jenn herself was responsible for this kind of teaching or whether she is a victim of the Church doctrine that she is involved in, keep in mind that I began responding to that question before expounding on the rest of the video.

My Response,………

Let not many of you become teachers my brethren, knowing that as such we incur a stricter judgment. James 3:1

She is as at fault as all of them, she is a teacher who claims to be a representative of God and His Word. She assumes that role when taking the place of a teacher in the house of God. She is more dangerous than some of the other teachers because she is so idolized by many impressionable young people, some of the most innocent minds will be taken by this doctrine preached by her more than they would by someone that sounds a little more ‘scientific’.

What she is teaching here is called “relative morality” or “relative truth”. Literally she is calling on people to make judgment calls based on their thoughts, emotions, or their will(their soul) or by using the judgment of their heart. She leads them down a path of judging whether something is black or white,…which really is just another way of saying good or evil. She presents several items that are already judged by God in the Bible such as murder. God already says murder is evil in His Word (although she does not identify the Word of God as the source of that judgment), then she picks “loving everyone’. Jesus already commands us to love our brother as our self, and to love our neighbor as our self, and to love our enemies(notice he didn’t say your enemies were not enemies, He just said love them),…so we know loving people is good because it is the command of God according to the Word of God. Also slander is identified as evil in the Word of God.

The bait and switch

But here is the bait and switch,…this is where it gets tricky,…here is the deception. She did not use the Word of God to identify the things God calls good or evil and thus makes those things our own judgement call. Then she throws in something that does not exist in the Bible,…she throws in Hannah Montana, and again asks for our own judgement call.

This is such an evil switch I don’t know if I can stand it. It reminds me of the way satan tried to temp Jesus in the desert, except for the fact that ironically satan actually attempted to use the Word of God to justify the bait, Jenn doesn’t even try that. In fact I am not even sure if this bait is intended to appeal to your spirit at all.

You see when she threw in Hannah Montana she is throwing in a Worldly icon idolized by young kids especially girls all over the USA, and the World. Because they didn’t use the Word of God to identify ‘good’ and ‘evil’ on the other things that were already judged by God,..than neither did they use the Word of God to judge this question. If they had followed the Word of God concerning idolatry they would have clearly identified that they were just being fed idolatry as a ‘gray area’. And why is that so evil? Because idols take the very place of God Himself in our lives and they absorb the adoration and love that we are to give God (do they scream, and cry, and want to be as close to God as they want to be close to Hannah Montana at a Hanna Montana concert?).

Idolatry? Hmmmm

Why would she present idolatry as the hinge point of good and evil(black and white)? Because this is where she has a total disconnect from God and His Word. Basically in her world ministry contains a lot of Idolatry. Ministry figures in her world become idols and icons. Worship ministries, prophetic ministries, teaching ministries,…until people will go to an ‘anointed one’ instead of Going to God. Or they will go to an anointed one to get to God. They will soak in their icons music rather than enter into genuine worship, they will seek an icons teaching rather that the Holy Spirits revelation, and they will seek an icons prophetic word before spending hours in prayer to hear the voice of the Holy Spirit them selves. Their icons become their God and the revelation of their icons becomes more important to them than the Word of the living God,…this is why they don’t talk about the Bible much.

The wost most gruesome part of this satanic teaching is that people are being taught that ‘gray’ is light,…AAARRRGGGHHH. And that when God’s light passes through gray it produces the colors of God’s glory. Actually White represents ‘Good’, ‘Holy’, or ‘light’. Black represents ‘evil’, ‘darkness’, or ‘absence of all color’,…and gray,…it’s simple, gray is the color of mediocrity.

I know your deeds, that you are neither cold nor hot; I would that you were cold or hot. So because you are lukewarm, and neither hot nor cold, I will spit you out of my mouth. Revelation 3: 15,16

Existentialism, Oprah, Jenn and…..Jesus?

Oprah Winfrey who is one of the biggest cult teachers of relative theology in the World, she like Jenn teaches that God is your own personal God. That nobody can define Him for you that you must define Him for yourself. The thing that makes that lie so bad is that it is partially true. We do come to know God in a deep personal intimate relationship,…this is undebatably true,…However God defines Himself with His Word,..After all Wasn’t Jesus the definition of God Himself to us who dwell on the Earth? And who is Jesus? Well lets look at one of the Bibles greatest descriptions of Jesus.

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word WAS God. He was in the Beginning with God. All things came into being by Him, and apart from Him nothing came into being.

In Him was life, and the life was the LIGHT of men. And the LIGHT shines in the DARKNESS, AND THE DARKNESS DID NOT COMPREHEND IT. John 1: 1-5

The Word of God calls Jesus Himself the Word and the light and that darkness does not even comprehend the light,…there is no gray, when the light comes the darkness is driven away, gray areas are only shades of darkness that we allow in the place where light dwells,…that is sin. Although it seems impossible on Earth, God commands us “be holy as I am holy”. Jesus says “seek ye first the Kingdom of Heaven and His righteousness”. Does my righteousness look like God’s? Can I define God’s holiness or righteousness with my souls understanding or with my heart?…Jeremiah said that the heart of man is desperately wicked who could perceive it. We cannot trust with our understanding,…we must trust the Word of the Lord.

Some will say,” I am listening to the Spirit”. I say does the Spirit of God who came to bear witness of Christ Himself, does that Holy Spirit lead us away from or closer to the Word of God?

Finally I will say this…….. 1 John 1: 5-7 And this is the message we have heard from Him and announce to you, that God is light, and in Him there is NO darkness at all. If we say we have fellowship with Him and yet walk in the darkness, we lie and do not practice the truth; but if we walk in the light as He Himself is the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus His Son cleanses us from all sin.

  1. Is there any darkness in God? Any??
  2. Do we have fellowship with God if we walk in darkness?
  3. Do we practice the truth if we walk in darkness?
  4. Do we have fellowship with one another if we walk in darkness? or the light?
  5. AND,..this is the biggie,…Does the blood of Jesus cleanse us from all sin if we walk in the darkness? or the light?

I could go on with hours more of examples of the truth, however, I think the point is clear. The most dangerous thing humans can do is judge good and evil without the Word of God. In fact Adam and Eve ended up having knowledge of good and evil because they disobeyed what?? They disobeyed,..the Word of God. Notice that when satan deceived Adam and Eve he spoke partial truth to them, just like the time he was TRYING to tempt Jesus. That is because satan always uses partial truth in order to tell the biggest lies,…in other words satan uses ‘gray’ to deceive God’s people because not many of them would be deceived with outright ‘black’.

God is the judge of what is good and what is evil, of what is black and what is white, what is ‘positive’ and what is ‘negative’. The Spirit that comes from God will not contradict the Word that proceeds from the mouth of God. Now that man has knowledge of good and evil, let’s not fail again by trusting our heart or mind instead of the Word of the Lord as to what is black or white.

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  1. andre says:

    I loved Jenn’s songs of intimacy, so this is pretty disturbing to watch… farting contests in heaven? Jenn, please understand the terror of the Lord that seizes all who see God face to face, and angels who are closer to Him cover their eyes and feet… there is terrible reverence in heaven. If you want to share your own experience of freedom, then I would encourage you to not assume you know enough but humble yourself and seek God’s truth from His Word. God is our Father, not our buddy.

    • Thats why this is so horribly deceptive especially to the young. Because the music that comes from people like Jen Johnson is so closely associated with ‘intimacy’ with God. So the young people really get into this stuff and assume that the sweet music, and spirit that they are engrossed in, really is from a spirit of deep intimacy with God. And yet just listen to that ‘intimacy’ when it is given more than a chorus and melody to explain itself. Apparently this intimacy doesn’t like the Word of God too much or at least doesn’t care alot about it,…This intimacy doesn’t have a reverence or respect even for the Throne of God Himself.
      And this intimacy looks at all the wonder and fascination of learning deep revelation and truth from God as just boring stuffy intellectual stuff thats just not ‘fun’ and of course fun is the best thing we can get from God. I mean God is like a cartoon genie to her? Really? At one point she says that faith is putting yourself on Gods table,…but we know as the Bible says, man shall not live on bread alone but on every Word that proceeds from the mouth of God.
      The intimacy that is spoken of and taught by not only Jen but the other ‘spiritual’ leaders around her(they all know each other well) is on such a base level that it is sickening and yet the music by their music people, the teaching of their teaching people, and the pillow prophecy given by their prophets in this Redding thing has taken so many young people into their world which is so strangely disconnected from a real intimacy with the Word, the truth, and Spirit of God.

  2. TracyH says:

    I could/can not get past this thing she said. “who God is to you”. At that point I stopped watching because it was making me mad. It doesn’t matter who we think God is. God is who He is. When I realized a few years ago that practically EVERYTHING is being redefined, I came to understand (perhaps) one reason why God’s memorial name for all generations (Gen 3:14) is “I AM WHO I AM”.

    People may try to redefine Him in order to live the way they want, but it still stands that He is Who He is.

  3. Matt says:

    Where on facebook is this posted by Kevin?

  4. pgcfriend says:

    I realized after a few minutes that she never mentioned anything about the Bible. It is all about your ‘experience’. What an open door to satan to use a person’s weak points to define their own god. I have never heard about this woman. I will make sure that if anyone mentions her I will send this post as a warning that she is an inclusionist or a universalist pure and simple. Incredibly dangerous woman.

  5. Bree says:

    I wish I could share with everyone on earth, my experience with the “New Age” before it had a name. I just knew there had to be more. I was tired of being spiritually starved to death in the mainline dead church I was required to attend as a child and as a young teen. So, when I left home, I began to search. it is a long story, that went through some real experiences that seemed so good at the time, but eventually led me into some even more “real” spiritual experiences that I NEVER want to have again. I wish all would seek to God Himself and His Word for Truth, and for Reality. I had believed by implication (more than by teaching) that everything supernatural was from God. So, I was drawn right in. It is a long story, but if anyone will believe me….Please don’t waste your time anywhere else. If you are a sincere seeker after The One True God, you will eventually end up back at “square one, ” and that square will have The Name of Jesus on it. He IS the only Way, Truth and Life. He is the only way to God. He is God. It is because He looks on the heart, and knew that I was genuinely seeking Him, that He in His Mercy reached down one day and delivered me from myself and the darkness I found myself in. I had laid down in the floor and refused to move until He answered me. I was totally serious. I was ready to die. He knew I had come to the end of myself, and He didn’t leave me there long. No one can ever take from me, what I gained that day. No one………..ever!!! Please read THE WORD OF GOD. I do not believe I heard this woman even mention it. She is deceived and deceiving. May God have mercy on her and show her…her error, and save those kids from error. God help them all.

    • Bree, thank you for this testimony. It is encouraging for me to hear your journey out of existentialist ‘Christianity’ or ‘God seeking’. So many people are caught up in this trap in the revival, prophetic, and intimacy crowds. They talk intimacy but after even a short conversation with them it is clear, they don’t know Jesus and they are more offended by His Words than even the people of the World. In some cases if you quote scripture to these guys they will actually express hatred for what you are saying believing you to be a legalistic ‘religious’ spirit because you quote the bible and believe that sin is evil.

  6. jadesceptre says:

    This is an unmitigated disaster. But not surprising. Are we not in the last days? Is Satan still appearing as an angel of light? The Revelation says that a remnant of every group, every tribe and kindred and tongue and nation, will be saved. BUT ONLY A REMNANT. Whatever churches Satan can bring under his deceptions, he most certainly will. Every mannerism of this woman says she is very pleased with HERSELF and there is not a hint of the powerful messages of Scripture that are so intensely needed now, just as we approach the final great battle for the minds of men. Even so, Come Lord Jesus.

    • Kevin Kleint says:

      I agree jadesceptre. She knew she had the audience “eating out of her hand”. The youth idolize the “new breed”/prophetic people coming up from the ranks. The Paul Cain/Bob Jones/etc have birthed the next generation, and it’s only going to get worse. It took a very short time for the “sermon” to digress from talking about a Holy God to flatulent angels. Watch the speaker’s lives do the same.

      Kevin Kleint

    • andre says:

      jadesceptre: “Every mannerism of this woman says she is very pleased with HERSELF and there is not a hint of the powerful messages of Scripture that are so intensely needed now, just as we approach the final great battle for the minds of men.”

      Thanks or putting words on what I was sensing – there is an arrogance that comes with being pleased with oneself, and that is what is portrayed here. Intimacy with God needs to be redefined, because it’s here depicted as dishonoring familiarity. Like the prodigal son who demanded his inheritance before he was rightfully entitled to it. You can’t have your inheritance before your father dies. In essence he was suggesting his dad should be dead so he could enjoy his own life with the fruit of his life’s labor.

      That familiarity with the things of God is evidenced by the familiarity with the members of the Body of Christ. The Bride of Christ is being abused by many supposed to nurture and care for her unto maturity, yet they lust after her and commit abominable things to her, which they are even blind to. Only an act of God can awaken slumbering leaders…

      Thanks for allowing this discussion, Daniel…

      • The discussion is really good I am just happy to get to be apart of it. I think it is important to note as the Church appears to suffer abuse to remember 2 Timothy 4: 2-4

        2) preach the Word; be ready in season and out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort, with great patience and instruction. 3) For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but wanting their ears tickled, they will accumulate for themselves teachers in accordance with their OWN desires, 4) and will turn away their ears from truth and will turn aside to myths.

        In this passage it is clear that these people go and get the deceptive teachers for themselves, in other words they are not the victims as much as they are the culprits. They did not want to hear truth so they found teachers of myths because they liked their flattering, tear jerking, heart wrenching, ear tickling, trash. Instead of the true Gospel of Christ. Certainly their are many young Christians that get deceived and caught up in this stuff and many young people will get carried away in their doctrines of demons. But I really believe that is why we who believe must live up to verse 2 with all diligence.

        Earlier this weekend I was praying with a friend, as I was praying I saw something by the Spirit that helped me understand what is going on right now. I saw myself as a red blood cell, I was in the cell and I was the cell, but I was aware that the Lord was keeping me together. I was moving very fast in a bloodstream, so fast that I felt out of control, even though everything was moving as it was supposed to be. I for some reason felt that the bloodstream was moving faster than normal.
        I also felt very separate even though I could see thousands of other red blood cells in the stream I felt alone or at least separate from other people(cells).
        A few minutes later I realized that the Bride of Christ has been being separated from every one and everything for awhile now as they move closer to Jesus all who would not keep moving got left behind or cut off. Also time has been speeded up as we reach the end of the age, in fact it is going so fast it seems out of control. And as the seperated ones come together we look like Christ and we are apart of Him, living members of the body of Christ.
        But here is the part that is amazing. Do you remember Luke 11: 49-51?

        49) For this reason also the wisdom of God said, I will send to them Prophets and Apostles, and some of them they will kill and some of them they will persecute, 50) so that the blood of all the Prophets, shed since the foundation of the World, may be charged against this generation, 51) from the blood of Abel to the blood of Zechariah, who as killed between the Alter and the House of God; I tell you it shall be charged against this generation.

        There is alot I could say about that even if you look at the story of Cain and Abel, you see a man(Abel) submitted to God pleasing God with a righteous sacrifice. And Cain trying to get God to be pleased with the works of his hands from a cursed ground. When God was not pleased with his sacrifice he was jealous with his righteous brother who was blameless before the Lord and killed him.
        Cain had a relationship with God, we can even see Cain speaking directly to God and God dealing mercifully with Cain in spite of His judgment of Cain.
        Can you see the relationship of the Pharisees(who felt they had a relationship with God) and Jesus in the story of Cain and Abel? And it happened over, and over, and over, again throughout history right up to Zechariah,…and then to Jesus, and in this way the Blood of Jesus has been flowing since the beginning of time,…but it will flow to the end of time too. I believe the Church has entered into the last days(I know you do too). Many are being martyred now but many more are to come. The Blood is flowing and the separated ones are moving quickly tward the wedding feast of the Lord.

  7. Matt says:

    One reason people get sucked into these places like Bethel is because of the supernatural manifestations that occur there. Please keep mind that pharaoh’s magicians performed miracles too. Supernatural manifestations, even actual physical healing, is not necessarily a manifestation of the Holy Ghost.

    • Good point Matt, just a Timothy said,…. (2 Timothy 3:8,9) 8. Just as Jannes and Jambres opposed Moses, so these men also oppose the truth, men of depraved mind, rejected in reguard to the faith. 9. But they will not make further progress; for their folly will be obvious to all, just as Jannes’ and Jambres’ folly was also.
      Kinda ironic now instead of Jannes we have Jennes. 2 Timothy chapter 3 is a good place to go when realizing what the people of the World AND the Church will be like in the last days.

      • Kevin Kleint says:

        So instead of “Jannes and Jambres” we have “Jenn’s and Johnson’s”? hahhaa

        Anyways, what you’re saying is totally “On”. The bible also says in Matthew 7, “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’ And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’”

        This is a great “plumb-line” verse for telling an End-Time, Apostate church. They do all the “supernatural stuff” in the name of Jesus, but practice lawlessness. This is heartbreaking to me. Not necessarily for the deceivers (although there is that), but all the people that they deceive.

        It’s time to gird up our loins with Truth!

        Kevin Kleint

  8. nellie says:

    Psychobabble on how to live your life without examination and seeking His approval of your life. We are to seek His will, not His approval on our will.

  9. woodb51 says:

    Speaking of Bethel in Redding CA, who out there knows about a ministry they have called SOZO. It is a deliverance ministry but I have some grave concerns about it. The way the present it, it sounds like the “holy grail” of deliverance ministries. But after reading Bob Deway’s review of Bill Johnson’s book,
    “When Heaven Invades Earth”, I am really concerned!

    • Kajsa Huckaba says:

      Your concerns are warranted. There is plenty of new ageism frosting on the people involved. The focus is off. If you question them about it, you are labelled “religious”.

  10. Kevin Kleint says:

    @woodb51: 95% of deliverance ministries are an unscriptural joke. Giving strange names to demonic spirits and angels, crazy techniques for delivering the victim and other such nonsense. If you want to know about true deliverance, check out what Jesus did …. He just said “GO!” … pretty simple if you ask me.

  11. loryttt says:

    Guys com’on! don’t take words out of context and say things about someone you don’t even know..she was joking about the texting and farting..isn’t that..obvious?!..that is her way of explaining me it may not be..but the thing is that God is guys have to admit that ..and He is good and awesome is not enough to describe Him….her point is a good one..we have to take everything to God .. most answers are not black or white..a lot of times are in the gray scale…(and I said ..A lot of Times..not all the time)..and if we take her example with the working mom or stay at home’s clear..because both have pluses and minuses..she was referring to that kind of examples..not..about..taking who knows what drugs or not taking..because..there is an obvious answer to that..not taking them is the right answer…taking things out of contexts is a bad habit..the only way to know the answer is by letting God’s light shine in us and through us. God should be the first One on our speed dial..that’s her point.God wants us to be ourselves and asking Him questions is ok..not asking and only waiting on doing whatever your pastor or leader’s a wrong thing..that’s why we gotta have a personal relationship with Him.
    I pray that He will open our eyes and see Him clearly and always remember that He is in a good mood towards us and always wants to do us good.

    • Ok,..well, I don’t really know what to say the level of your deception is very extensive but luckily not too deep. First of all none of Jenn’s words were taken out of context nor was any comment in the feed indicative of a person who did not understand her words or intent. And though it is obvious to you that she was joking many people especially young people and children who really look up to and respect Jenn will or counld assume that this is a correct attitude and idea of Heaven. The Bible, you know, the Word of the God that lives in Heaven and sits in that throne,..His Word doesn’t indicate any of these things not even in suggestion. And for some reason though I am sure God is the great comedian in the sky He some how doesn’t find that part of His character or nature important enough to reveal to us in any one one of His stand up routines in scripture. In fact our sense of humor on Earth especially in our fallen culture has become so perverse and wicked that I am sure most of us without extreme closeness to God would even understand His sense of humor, just as most don’t understand other aspects of Gods character such as His judgement or His severity. In fact if you are a true worshiper of God AND a teacher of true worship to others, you are the last person in the world that should joke or jest about the atmosphere around the throne of God. Some people may think that in trying to make God look cute and endearing they need to make Him funny(notice He Himself didn’t do that). And that in order to make Him funny they need to make it seem as if He finds crude and defiled behavior funny, because they in their wicked state being trained by Hollywood and television find defilement funny. In true worship we will find ourselves being transformed into the Holy and incorruptible image of God it is wicked to think that He will be transformed into our image, or entertain our falleness just so we will ‘feel at home’ in His presence. In fact if you understand how serious God is about the Throne and the Temple in Heaven you will understand that He had us make a likeness of that Temple on Earth. And anyone who entered into the Holy place in the Temple with even one defiled thought would fall to the ground dead.
      Certainly this changed with Jesus right? Well Jesus said that formerly(in the old testament) we were told not to commit adultery, but Jesus said that if a man even looks upon a woman with lust He commits adultery with her in his heart. Look, I know you think it’s cute and funny and all who have a problem with Jenns ‘teaching’ are just taking her words out of context, but your wrong, dead wrong. This is evil on a level that is unbelievable, she is teaching the Word of God is not absolute, that we can joke about mocking the Throne of Heaven, and that our own opinion of what we think we hear God saying should be our guide, AND that people who do this are full of God’s light.
      All you have to do is take a little trip to the book of Ezekiel and see what the atmosphere is like around the Throne in Heaven. And to observe the power and seriousness of the Glory of God and His servants around His Throne who attend and worship Him, proclaiming His Word from the throne. Or see Heaven from John experience in the book of Revelation. Also when you look at the experiences of Heaven by anyone else in the Bible or Angelic visitations, they were marked by extreme reverence, awe, and dire seriousness. So serious that Daniel fell before the Angel of the Lord as a dead man, and Zacharias (John the Baptists Father) was struck dumb for doubting the Word of the Lord that the Angel brought.
      Secondly, if you are going to ‘take everything to God’ the most important thing you can do is study His Word that He gave us to understand Him. Otherwise you become a person who feels that their opinion and ‘heart’ are the very measuring stick itself for what is and what is not the word of God. Any one who really does take stuff to God and really listens to Him ends up in love with the Word of God. In fact the Word of God is so important that if it were not true then God would be a liar,…and He is not. So if His Word is true then His Word must be a guide for all of us, ESPECIALLY for those who teach people about Him. One of the disturbing things about this ‘teaching’ from Jenn is that I can clearly find existentialism, new-age philosophy, Buddhist ideology, but I don’t hear any of the Word of the God she says she loves.
      As far as black and white,..yes God is a God of absolutes. He has an absolute answer about everything. He will sometimes let us fill in the details but His Word will never change as He said Heaven and Earth may pass away but His Word will never pass away. When you said “(and I said ..A lot of times..but not all the time)”….Ok think about that,…Now when it is ok to be gray,…or is not ok to be gray, that is all up to you as an individual, because without the Word of God you are the only one who can become the indicator of when gray is appropriate(in other words your opinion replaces the absolute Word of God). Alot of the time?…yup your decision, not all the time? yup again your decision….It’s not your decision and even though God loves you, your opinion doesn’t drive His Word. In fact you are to submit to His Word and His Word is absolute, black and white. In fact if left up to human opinion without the Word of God it wouldn’t be long before we would have every evil and corrupt thing in our Churches saying it was the love of God to accept it, because God is so relative. Relative truth has tried to replace absolute truth thousands of times for thousands of years and it always becomes the same thing,…a corrupt, idolatrous, wicked people that think they are with God. Remember revival is not an experience(though it can defiantly be experienced) it is a return to God Himself and a deep renewing of our love for God especially His Word.
      In order to let Gods light shine through us we have to be full of Gods light. In order to be full of Gods light we have to be full of His Word. In fact the Bible calls Jesus ‘The Word’ and it calls Him ‘the Light of the World’.
      As far as the ‘good mood’ heresy,…no God is not always in a good mood. The Bible many times talks about Gods wrath, His anger, and even His hate of certain things. In fact there is so much on that that I could really spend some ink on it, but I know this will already be too much.
      Anyways I will stand fast to what I am saying when I say that the Redding, Bethel thing has been getting so far from the true character and nature of God that it really doesn’t even look Christian anymore.
      Remember 1 John 1: 5-7 This is the message we have heard fro Him and announce to you, that God is light, and in Him there is NO darkness at all.(get the black and white thing) If we say we have fellowship with Him and yet walk in the darkness, we lie and do not practice the truth; but if we walk in the light as He Himself is the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus His Son cleanses us from all sin.

      Here is a short(very short) explanation of this truth.

  12. Ephesians 5: 1-20

    1 Follow God’s example, therefore, as dearly loved children 2 and walk in the way of love, just as Christ loved us and gave himself up for us as a fragrant offering and sacrifice to God.

    3 But among you there must not be even a hint of sexual immorality, or of any kind of impurity, or of greed, because these are improper for God’s holy people. 4 Nor should there be obscenity, foolish talk or coarse joking, which are out of place, but rather thanksgiving. 5 For of this you can be sure: No immoral, impure or greedy person—such a person is an idolater—has any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God. 6 Let no one deceive you with empty words, for because of such things God’s wrath comes on those who are disobedient. 7 Therefore do not be partners with them.

    8 For you were once darkness, but now you are light in the Lord. Live as children of light 9 (for the fruit of the light consists in all goodness, righteousness and truth) 10 and find out what pleases the Lord. 11 Have nothing to do with the fruitless deeds of darkness, but rather expose them. 12 It is shameful even to mention what the disobedient do in secret. 13 But everything exposed by the light becomes visible—and everything that is illuminated becomes a light. 14 This is why it is said:

    “Wake up, sleeper,
    rise from the dead,
    and Christ will shine on you.”

    15 Be very careful, then, how you live—not as unwise but as wise, 16 making the most of every opportunity, because the days are evil. 17 Therefore do not be foolish, but understand what the Lord’s will is. 18 Do not get drunk on wine, which leads to debauchery. Instead, be filled with the Spirit, 19 speaking to one another with psalms, hymns, and songs from the Spirit. Sing and make music from your heart to the Lord, 20 always giving thanks to God the Father for everything, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ.


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