Is this Jesus?

 



Is this the Jesus of the Bible?
Is it accurate?
Are we to pray to Jesus like he says?
What do you think?

Edited to add the link to whole sermon:

http://marshill.com/media/easter/easter-celebration-2011

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"But as you abound in everything—in faith, in speech, in knowledge, in all diligence, and in your love for us—see that you abound in this grace also." [2 Corinthians 8:6-8]

It is my earnest desire to stand before the Lord to be called "good and faithful servant". I see my life as a walk of sacrifice that I only get one chance at. My prayer is to be found full of Truth, love, faith, humility and a minister of peace; Speaking Truth in love at all times; Never to be found haughty, abrasive nor guilty of leading young ones away from the Lord.

“Whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in Me to sin, it would be better for him if a millstone were hung around his neck, and he were drowned in the depth of the sea." [Matt 18:6]

As I firmly believe that the written word carries great power, much is lost in translation- in tone and implied meaning, if you will. I much prefer the spoken word and ministering directly to further the Lord's Kingdom. Many great works are accomplished this way.

"For our gospel did not come to you in word only, but also in power, and in the Holy Spirit and in much assurance, as you know what kind of men we were among you for your sake." [1 Thess 1]

Peace and grace,
Kajsa Huckaba

Comments

  1. Jododu says:

    I don’t believe I heard anything about repentance?

  2. Kevin Kleint says:

    At first I didn’t think this was so bad, but then around 2:45 I was like “YIKES”. People who don’t want to repent of their sin will latch on quickly to that “free pass” mentality.

    Kevin Kleint

  3. A swing and a miss.

  4. andre says:

    I don’t see or hear anything that could cause me to wonder if he is talking about Jesus. Of course he is! I love how he ends too! Powerful…

    Let’s be honest, this is a very short excerpt of a probably very long preaching, so I’m not sure what is the problem, when we can’t hear this particular message in its entirety. The way it is presented makes us think: “OK, so what’s the big heresy that we’re going to learn about concerning this man?”

    I’d say back to you: A swing and a miss… let’s not sift flies and swallow camels…

    Peace,

    Andre

    • He does explain Jesus to an extent, but however his message does not call the listener to any responsibility of their own. It doesn’t call them to repentance, it doesn’t call them to take up their cross, it doesn’t call them to a ‘new life’ in Christ. So you might say,..ya the message sounds like Jesus,..BUT the message doesn’t sound like Jesus’ message. Consider the story of the rich young ruler who fell at Jesus feet and asked Jesus how he could obtain eternal life. Jesus then told him about the law,…the man quickly pointed out that he had kept the law all his life,…then the Bible records that Jesus felt a love for the man. So,..was falling at Jesus feet and acknowledging Jesus as the source of eternal life enough? Nope,…was keeping the law since your youth enough,…nope. Then Jesus called the man to sell all he owned and give it to the poor then come and follow Jesus,..In other words give up your life and follow me.
      The message this man preaches is that of a great motivational speaker with a Bible in his hand, but it is not the message that leads to life,…therefore,…a swing and a miss.
      For future reference and from personal experience,..emotional hype with a message is exiting but it only lasts so long and then burns out,…it’s not real. Relationship with Jesus is a two sided story.

      • andre says:

        Mark Driscoll, he’s usually a bit crude. I was actually surprised on this. He speaks loud, he’s not hyping it. I have no idea where you see hype. This was a truncated video, we can’t hear it whole, so how can we judge anything is we have partial message? I understand what you’re trying to get at, believe me, and I agree with it, so I could also perceive it. But I believe you make your point with the wrong video, and therefore, I would encourage you to revise your motivation. Write something about it, don’t twist someone’s words which you report partially. It would be worst that what you accuse him of… Come on Daniel…

    • BTW,..it is not ‘sifting out gnats’ to notice that a message that sounds more like hype than the gospel is devoid of repentance and a call to separation from the world. That is a huge camel to swallow. But many who love religious events will want this kind of thing to be valid because it’s such a feel good message. It’s just not a life changing message.
      Sifting out gnats would be the act of trying to find a message that leads to salvation in this preaching.

      • i2am7 says:

        Jesus did say “Repent and Believe”.. but aren’t there other areas in scripture where He simply says “believe”? How the gospel was spoken in the Biblical times seemed to have some dependency on the type of audience, as well as the revelation from the Holy Spirit.

        However, I will say that this man did seem to studder at that point..where he said.. “all you have to do is trust in Jesus”. It was indeed, sort of a lame.. climax to an amazing, and humbling gospel message. There seemed to be some personal emphasis snuck in there, focusing on the mercy and forgiveness portiion of God’s message, and not at all on the repentance and suffering portion of it. You know.. the surrendering our lives to Christ in response to His perfection and sufferings.

        Well, my question is, why find the fallacy in this man’s message? .. because we only saw this man through a video online? we’re such a small group of people here. even if we did find the fallacy, what would we do about it? there’s a lot of people that heard that message! We better start binding and loosing the lies through prayer! We better start fasting!

        Is this man, per say, a false prophet that we need to do something about? or are we simply observing his teachings, in order to get a better hold on lies vs. truth about the gospel?

        I don’t understand the point of this discussion, except for personal revelation or for doing something about this problem.

        • Good point, I think the first thing to do about the problem is to try and get the Church to see that this problem exists. I think there are a few times in the past when Apostles really hammered on the Church over what looked like splitting hairs to some people. But the points always surrounded true faith and believing in the Word and power of Jesus Christ. Galatians 3, 1 Corinthians 4:18-21, and nearly all of Hebrews are just some of the books or verses where there was a line drawn between two separate Gospels claiming to be the same Gospel. Just look at the hair splitting hammering of the seven Churches in Revelation. I believe that we are not to start trivial wars but we really also need to reveal the sharp contrast between a Gospel that leads to following Christ and a Gospel that leads to me believing I am with Jesus when I am just as hedonistic as the rest of the World.
          When I was a young kid I still have strong memories of the tail end of the ‘Jesus movement’ of the 1970′s. There were some genuine people in that movement who really loved God and wanted to please Him. However the predominate group was very ‘grace’ based. When I say grace I mean grace as they defined it, which meant they lived almost no differently than the rest of the World with just a few agreed upon differences that they felt made them Christian(Church on Sunday, no booze, no divorce). Which seemed fine until their mentality bled into their children a generation later,…their children for the most part have not even concerned themselves with the Word of God nor is it a guide for them. If they are even still among ‘Christian’ circles then their faith is mostly experienced based or ‘revelatory’ without much of the Word to back up the ‘revelation’. In fact most of the new younger generation has bound alot of new-age thinking with Christian ideas and the older generation seems to think this is great. Now as a result the Church has a divorce rate to rival the World, the Church uses anti-depressant drugs on a percentage that is in keeping with popular World trends, internet pornography use is also way high in the Church. AND most of the Church when polled has never led anyone else to Christ, cast out a demon, or prayed for anyone that was healed of anything. That’s because the Church is full of the World and not very full of faith.
          All that from a root that looked like splitting hairs,…no wonder Jesus was so adamant about speaking the message to the seven Churches to John. According to Jesus there is ‘hot’ or ‘cold’ the Luke warm middle ground is total death. We must learn to address issues and inform the Church while the matters are still small instead of trying to deal with them after they have become a nightmare.

          • Kajsa Huckaba says:

            Daniel said:

            “AND most of the Church when polled has never led anyone else to Christ, cast out a demon, or prayed for anyone that was healed of anything. That’s because the Church is full of the World and not very full of faith.”

            Not to derail this topic and thread, but I wholeheartedly agree with this statement.

            In fact, I was talking with a friend of mine the other day and she had marvelled at me and said “Someday I hope to do things like that.” She said it like it was this great thing to attain, like a benchmark, in her walk with the Lord. Of course I told her we are all supposed to be doing these things and she certainly should be doing it now. I never seem to be amazed at the level of the deceptions that keep the Church impotent.

            What a picture of the true Church! The people out there who actually do LOVE Jesus and have real relationship with Him and yet sadly have been misinformed about their own job as believers! This needs to change.

  5. Kajsa Huckaba says:

    The point is that we should be paying very close attention to what the Church is portraying Jesus as.

    Subtle additions and subtractions (and the not so subtle additions and subtractions) to what the Bible tells us who Jesus is should make our ears perk up. Scripture gives stern warnings to adding to and taking away from the Word and for causing those who are young (spiritually or agewise) to be mislead.

    This is not a witch hunt. It is a TRUTH hunt.
    There IS a place for exposing heretics, but this post is about identifying truth or chocolate covered lies. The Church is accustomed to swallowing whatever is put before them- especially when it is exciting, emotional and makes them feel like they are on the right track.
    It is an integral part of my position to point to truth and also to the the slick lies that have corrupted truth so that it is no longer truth. Truth is absolute and cannot be compromised. Just as light and dark cannot co-exist, neither can Truth and the false.

    It is extremely important to note that: Omitting truth from truth to portray a different picture is “false teaching”.

    As often quoted, “in the last days” false crud will be prevalent. The lies will infect the truth. The yeast will destroy the whole batch of bread. Look around, friend, the false teachers are everywhere but no one challenges them.

    Matthew 7:15
    “Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves.

    Matthew 24:11
    Then many false prophets will rise up and deceive many.

    Matthew 24:24
    For false christs and false prophets will rise and show great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect.

    Jesus said plainly-
    “I am the Way, the Truth and the Life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.”

    Since Jesus pointed out again that HE is Truth, in fact He said “the Truth” so there is NO other Truth, if Jesus is portrayed as anything else than exactly what the Bible says, then it is NOT TRUTH and NOT JESUS. It is a false christ instead, even if it closely resembles the genuine Jesus.

    So, that is the point of this post, to help the Church to begin to identify who Jesus is… to begin to identify an omission of truth that defines who Jesus is.
    You must know.
    You must be able to tell the difference between a false christ and Jesus.

  6. i2am7 says:

    I agree Kajsa.. Thank you for responding.
    A suggestion… for this website. Hunt for truth by hunting for true prophets and true teachings around the world.. which can teach, and expand the horizons of those who desperately want to learn.
    On a different note, once a website brings up the names of false teachers.. it will be assumed that they are witch hunting per say. Is this okay for me to mention, as a “speak your mind” comment?
    In my post, I was actually asking.. are you all just talking about this, or are you doing something such as praying together or fasting?
    My post may have come across as a debate, but I was actually dialoging as a means of adding something good to the group.
    When I said..
    “I don’t understand the point of this discussion, except for personal revelation or for doing something about the problem”
    I wish I had said instead.. “are you all just talking heresy, or right and wrong? i don’t want to believe that you are, but it does sound like it.. and I have learned that stirring up debates about words is not a godly thing..”
    I will admit, when I wrote the post, I was irritated with the discussion..

  7. Kajsa Huckaba says:
  8. i2am7 says:

    By the way.. looking back.. I realize how I didn’t take a good look at Daniel’s response to my comment. Must have gotten lost in the responses. And I appreciate what you said Daniel.

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